Episode Transcript
Welcome back. We back. That's it. We're back. Oh, we're live. Hello everyone. We're on the air. Amanda, we're doing it again another week. Uh, another episode of sort of sophisticated. Here we are, we're doing it. Side note before we jump into today's topic, please. Okay. Do you mind? It's totally side note, so it's totally fine. It's totally related, I promise. Okay. Ready? So, um, it's why I, it's why I picked the topic to begin with. Like, trust me, you what? Yeah. What's You're trying like our topic today. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you're laying it on? I'm setting groundwork. Okay. Okay. So I'm talking to this colleague of mine who, by the way, her name is Yvonne Ramos. We love her to death. She is excellent, very wonderful, upbeat personality. She honestly reminds me of you a little bit. Not gonna lie. Okay. Thank you. Very artsy, very nice, very cool. And like always in a good mood. Okay. Right. Love her to death. Super awesome work buddy. Anyway, so she is going to something called Tomorrowland, which is an EDM festival. I was like in Tomorrowland, like Disneyland? No, no, no, no, no. An EDM festival in Boone. Belgium. Yeah, that's like a big deal. I don't even know. Like it's not even just like a festival here. Right. She's going to boom. Belgium boom, BOON, boom. Belgium halfway across the world. Right, right. She's like leaving, I dunno, I think it's in August. Maybe it's in July. She loves EDM. Okay. And when I'm talking to her about this whole thing, I'm like, why? And she's like, no, no, no. Like she knows everything. There's an EDM American scene. Right. But then she's like, but the European scene is different. And then when you like combine cultures from all over the world, like Yeah. She's like, it is amazing. And she's been to smaller festivals. Um, and she said she's met some of her best friends and like stays in contact with them and they live in all different parts of the world. Huh. And so I was amazed by this whole thing freaking out. Of course, because you know me, I just sit on my couch and can't do anything. And then she told me about something called, um, 'cause she knows I'm like an old dude. Um, Eurovision, you admitted it, have you right. Have you heard Eurovision? Eurovision? So she said I could watch that instead because Oh, okay. Because I was like, I wanna get involved. She's like, no, no, no. Trust me. You don't wanna go do this with me. I was like, yeah, okay. That's kind of creepy. But my point is, Eurovision, you could watch this on television I guess, and it's like a competition between countries. Oh, interesting. Yes. And it's like coming up and so long story short, no clue. I'm sitting there talking smack and I started like realizing I need to do an episode on the whole idea. Of music and rhythm and like the culture behind. Okay. Okay. Okay. All this kind of crap, but I realize that we didn't really introduce our topic, so Yeah. I'm still waiting what that is. Right? So lemme lemme, okay. Alright. E DM or Belgium or, right, right. Okay. Something musically related. Alright. I'm officially gonna release topic. Here we go. Today's episode is called Beats Without Borders. Why? Rhythm Connects us All. Okay, so born from this whole Tomorrowland Eurovision thing we were just talking about. Right? Okay. Duh. It's about how music is totally universal and how rhythm is the heartbeat, Amanda. The heartbeat of every culture. Okay. I can get a war with that. Samba, Samba tango. Oh, let's go right drum circles, right? Oh my gosh. Drum line, right? Gimme, gimme drum line. Let's go. Right? Anything, right? Okay. That's like my bucket list is to go to the drumline. Here's gonna like this because today we're not just gonna talk about like rhythm and music. We're gonna talk about like the psychology, like the brain stuff. Oh, okay. Right behind it all, how it connects. Alright, because Amanda. We have to be like cultured and curious and we need like philosophy and psychology. So intro. Gotta make it complicated. Got it. Officially over. Alright. Yes. Well then where are we gonna start? Are we gonna start with Eurovision? I kind of need some details. Oh, this Eurovision. I looked this up. This is kind of cool stuff. I mean, I figured you did, that's why we're talking about it. So lay it on me. Go ahead. Okay, so I hopefully can cover all your questions here, but basically countries compete, not like individual people like you're competing for, it's like the Olympics of music. 100%. Absolutely. Just specific music. For each, any music for each country. You're representing your country, so you wanna make sure the music like has some sort of representation. So what's America's? America's not in it. It's called Eurovision. It's not called America Vision. I thought anybody could compete. That's only European countries that compete in this and Australia. Oh, well see. Do you see why I asked? But I mean, they are British colonies, so, right, so they're there. So, okay, so only one act per country. That's it. Like you better pick the best one. Okay, about 35 to 40 countries compete. It's broken up into two semifinals and only the top 10 from each move on. So I guess there's like, whatever, there's 40 countries and then like, okay. And then the, that's a lot. Finals has like 20. Right? Okay. Um, and then plus somehow like the uk, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, the top five always make like somehow they're magically allowed. Maybe they started or have the most money. Don't ask me, I don't know. Not sophisticated, no conspiracy theories, right? Just nothing going on there. Just facts. Okay. All songs must be original under three minutes and sung live. No lip syncing. We're not doing milli Vanilli, huh? Right. It's gotta be serious stuff. Maximum six people on stage. So if it's like a band, okay. You can't have more than six people public and, and judges vote. Sure. Um, you cannot vote for your own country. So that's random. Right. Songs can't be political. They can't be shady. It's gotta be upbeat. Good stuff. Fair. Um. Then the winner has bragging rights, but has a good chance at getting famous. And then subsequently they hosted the following year's contest, whoever wins. Okay. Right. Okay. So bands that you might know that have actually like this has been around for a long time. Abba, do you know Abba? Like they competed in it? Yeah, they competed in it. Abba, in the 1970s. Did they win? Yes. And won and got famous. Uh, Celine Dion. Oh, you may have heard of Celine Dion. Just a little bit. Yeah. So she won, um, and then she got famous or was she only famous? No, and then she got famous. That's my point. That's how she got famous. That is how she got famous. So wait, wait. This is like American Idol. This is like American Idol that's been around since 1970. We didn't know that. But really American idol's, like Euro vision. Got it, got it. Okay. What, what, what was the newest one? Um, how do you say it? Like Monkin? I'm probably saying it wrong. I'm not cool enough to know that. I think it's Mo. Moan skin. Okay. Maybe, right. Have to look it up. I'm begging. I'm begging. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They were just, yeah, that's how they were. Oh yeah. And it got totally famous. Okay. Huh. I feel like we could do a whole episode just on your revision. I know, because I'm very curious now. Totally. But, uh, when is it this year? So May 13th. Oh, it start and then it runs through like, uh, May 17th. Like this is a grand finale and it's in Basel, Switzerland. I don't know how to say that. Right. Okay. Basel, B-A-S-E-L, Basel. Uh, 'cause last year an artist named Nemo. One for his song called, I Feel Like We Know Nemo. Huh? The code? I don't know. Oh, okay. Uh, and he was apparently from Switzerland, so yeah. What's that? And is this like American Idol where people have favorites? Like are there any favorites that are projected to win? I, I didn't get that sophisticated. I mean, I'm sure there's favorites, right? Because like. These people like have songs mm-hmm. And are like trying to break in. So like I, yeah. I'm assuming. Okay. Okay. I'm assuming. Alright. Well were you sophisticated enough to figure out Word of the Day? Uh, I did not figure out Word of the Day this time. Oh. So I am really hoping you have a little list that you could just pull from. Mm. Okay. Very quickly, please. Well, hold on. Let's see what we can see. Oh, you're just gonna Google a word of the day right now. Don't talk of it like me. I'm asking for you to come prepare. Okay. Okay. Okay. What. One. What usually you do word of the day? I do not. So I now have one. Are you ready? What? Yes, I'm ready. I, I may pronounce this a little wrong, so a little bit umbrella of grace. I cannot wait to hear this. Uh, crepuscular, crepuscular. Crepuscular. Is it? That sounds gross. That sounds like it sounds a little pussy, right? Crusty pussy. What? Uh, can you please look up the Latin word for puss? Oh, it's Latin. I wanna know whats going on, right, please. Latin word for puss, lion. Oh my god. Ular. Uh, it's actually PUS, yeah. Mm-hmm. Pu matter from a sore. Mm-hmm. Oh my God. So it actually comes from mine. It does. Okay. Can you just tell me what it really means now, because you're freaking me out? Need. Okay. Well, the definition here, what is related to twilight? Related to twilight? Yep. So the time right before sunrise or right after sunset. Super short time, but crisp ular. Can we pick another word? I have no chance of working ular into this episode. I mean, okay. We're just gonna like, I think you gotta do the whole thing of like, how does learning about music and rhythm make us more cultured and curious? Oh my God. It's, I'll tell you what it's not gonna do. It's not gonna make us core popular. Okay, let's do that part. Okay. See, see, you got, it's fine. That doesn't count. Okay. So cultured and curious. Right, so here's the deal, like 90% of communication is body language, right? We don't need words. You don't, yeah, exactly. Thank you very much. I'm an expressive, so I'm very emotive. My face talks for me, my hands talk for everything talks for me, so I get it. This, this is why we love each other. And then people who stand there stoic, I'm like, I dunno what the fuck's going on. I don't dunno how to read you. Yeah, I'm confused. I don't like you. My brain is melting down. Right. So like, learning about how the world moves to rhythm and into music and to like the whole body language thing. Like that's, that's culture that teaches us history. It teaches us healing, it teaches us like human connection stuff. Fair. Fair. It's like. I can board with that. I know you're not a Lord's ring person, but it's like the thing. But I am gonna go see it. It's the thing that binds us. It binds s us all together. Right. It's connection, right? Yes. And that and therein lies culture. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. Alright, well now that we're all good to go, I think we're all on the same page. Hopeful. Hopefully. Good. We good to go? Um, I think I'm gonna need to start with history first like we normally do and then we're gonna get to like the good stuff. We gonna get to the good stuff. Yeah. The brain stuff. I'm noticing a trend. The emotional connection. Okay, fine. The good stuff. I'll blow through history. Okay. We ready? Okay. It starts at birth man. What It's all the way back at birth. Like where, how, what literally starts with our own bodies, Amanda, our heartbeat, our breathing, clapping, stomping. Like we were born with builtin rhythm. Like most of the, well, I don't know about rhythm. Yeah, because I, I don't have rhythm, so I, I don't know how I feel fully about that. Um, but I will give you that. It all starts at birth. It all starts it like the utero. We have a whole section on in utero. This is gonna be great. Okay. Um, but the reason I know it starts at birth is because when my brother was like, this is a story, this is one of those stories that's like a hand me down story. My brother was like five, so I was like one, so I have no idea. But then when I was older, I heard the story. So my brother goes, so it might be bullshit, but go ahead. Well, my mom told me as well. Yes, yes. Fair. I'm gonna say it's less than a level five. Why? Okay. Okay. Right. But it could be, remember, you're only level seven, right? Yeah. Okay, go ahead. So, um, my brother goes to kindergarten and, um, they're talking about heartbeats and they're like, oh, feel your heart, da da da. Like, tie your heart to this whole thing. And they're asking like kids like how the heartbeat like. You know sounds, and they're like, Bubu, okay. Right. They get to my brother, right. And my idiot brother, who I love to death. Shout out to Dave, uh, goes. Um, ba stop it. And the teacher lost her shit. It was excellent. And that's amazing. And therein lies, my brother had rhythm when he was five years old. Okay. All right. Fast forward, he just felt it. He, uh, he can dance better than me. Uh, he moves better than me. He, he's more artistic. Oh, totally. So he just uses that side of his brain a little more. Yes. Okay. Anyway, I love it. Okay. Whatever. So anyway, lemme go back to history. So yeah, the facts right. Let's get serious. 10,000 years ago. Okay. Maybe 10,000 years ago. It's very long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So some genius takes a log and hollows it out, and then stretches like a dried animal skin over the top of it and basically made the world's first drum. Alright, here we go. Starts banging on it. 10,000 years ago. That's at least the evidence we have. I mean, there's enough, his story, I mean, it probably was before then, right? I looked this up like historians were like, okay, now we think drums go back farther and all that stuff. But like. Right now we're basically saying 10,000 years ago, uh, long ass time ago. Okay. Then all ancient cultures like Africa, north America, south America, like indigenous cultures, right? Yeah. Like they, they start using drums and drum rhythms to start telling their stories. Yep. And like connecting their communities and start healing their sick people. Like they're starting to realize there's something to it, and then somewhere around like 3000 BC Maos, okay. Ancient Egypt gets involved. Mesopotamia gets involved, right. They start building. We all know about Mesopotamia, right? Yep. Thank you very much. They build harps. Flutes, tambourines. It's getting a little, all sorts of fancy, getting a little more serious. Ush, fun fact. They're actually the first civilization to start writing down music. Oh. Up until that point, nobody's writing anything down. They're writing down. They just passed down. What did they write on Pap? Is it papyrus? Do we know what, 3000? I don't been tablets. I don't Whatever they had in 3000. Yeah, whatever they had in 3000 people. They're chiseling. Remember we talked chisel. They were chiseling that. Okay. Whatever. Okay. Um, and they were the first ones to start using it in religious ceremonies. Okay. In like, uh, rituals and like that kind of funerals. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Um, integrating music in their lives. Yes, yes. Yes. And they were known for like, taking rhythm from like clapping and surviving to like creating structured, like emotionally driven music. Yes. Uh, so then the feel good, the feel good, that's when it, that's when I, that's what started, that's when I start tuning in. Okay. So then, so then the ancient Greece gets involved, uh, and philosophers like Play-Doh, Aristotle, and Pythagoras. They don't just listen to music, they start analyzing music. Okay. So like, hold on. What? Like the Pythagorean theorem? Pythagoreous? Yes. That guy. Oh, the yes, him. Okay. Fun fact. Well, so he actually figured out the math of all of this. Like why the strings Right. Actually make different sounds and all that nerdy shit. Right. While Playto and Aristotle were probably smoking dope. Are we kidding? And we're like, um, let's just see what this sounds like. So, but my, my point is they all get to sit around. And figure out music and like, okay. Something called Modes of Music, which was the early version of musical scales. So like this start, like it got started getting serious. Right? Oh my gosh. So like those guys are literally the pinnacle for everything in our lives today. They're like in every episode, we should start every episode with, I don't know. It's all started with Aristotle, right? And Aristotle do today. Yeah. But we epi, we threw Pythagoras into this one Did. So it was pretty good. Did. Okay. Okay. And they say that you don't need to put aggre in theorem ever in your life. And here, who knew? Here you are. And here. Who would've known it would've been on the subject of Beats Without Borders. That's true. So rare. The history of rhythm. So random. There we go. Okay. Okay. So then the ancient Romans get involved 'cause like they can't let the Greeks do anything better than they can because Roman, of course. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and since the Greeks had already done so much shit, Romans basically just copied everything, let's be honest. Oh. But they just made it all like bigger and louder. Yeah. Like, think amphitheater, think Right. Gladiator games, military. Right. Like, and they were the ones to come up with they, that's, they built a coliseum. That's why they built the Colosseum because they wanted to like outdo. Yes. Right. Okay. Like all those, I don't know the name of the original, the fla. Was it the Flavian Amphitheater? You might have to look that shit up. I don't know what it's, but anyway, my point is it's the Colosseum, right? Um. So then somewhere around a thousand. Right now we're in like a thousand ad What? What'd you look up? Did you That you were right? Yeah. Flavian. Uh huh Flavian. You were right. Oh my God. I look, the random knowledge that, you know, I can put me on Jeopardy, people pulls it out of his as let's go. Okay. Okay. So a thousand ad medieval Europe gets involved and they invent early versions of sheet music. Now we're getting serious. Right? Okay. So this would be your papyrus music? Yeah, this is, yeah. Now it's on like Donkey Kong. Right. So then the Renaissance takes it from there and blows everything up and starts creating like all the complex shit and adds melodies, harmonies, like. Everything is like, now we're going big. And also another fun fact, uh, started building way more sophisticated instruments during that time. Like smoother, like the harp wasn't enough? No, no. Like imagine like, okay, the world's first violin, and then imagine like what they have today. So like Oh, you mean just like the, the growth, yes. Technology more time. That was a massive movement of music. Okay. And then of course you think back to, you know, who came outta the Renaissance, right? All the artists and musicians and everything. It's crazy. Okay. Um, so sort of like, sort of what. I just wanna make sure I'm like tracking. Yes. Go. So we've gone from heartbeats Yes. To drums. Yes. To religious ceremonies to philosophy. Little philosophy. Little philosophy and math. Little And math. And math. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To like words and stuff. Yeah. And then, because it all gets added in. Right. And then it became like this organized entertainment. Yeah. At big venues. Then finally it's just like this beautiful chaos of melodies when you're using Yes. Beethoven, Mozart. Are these everybody? Okay? They're all yes. You know? So this like trans transition. Transition. Yeah. You know what, funny you say that, you know, like when it's the afternoon and, and it's like, like right before the evening. Yeah. And there's that beautiful transition. It's s well played. Well played. Thank you very much. Wow. Nailed it. That was hard. Nailed. Okay, so are we finished with the history? Yes. Um. I mean, yeah, basically it's sort of built on. Yes. I mean, each subsequent era added like whatever came before it, so like Right, right, right. After it's the growth. Right. The few, few other big ones like you had baroque next you had classical, then, uh, romantic era. Okay. And then finally like the modern era and like. We probably skipped a few, but like I'm not gonna go through all this. We literally, I the idea literally take like 10 episodes to do this whole thing's. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, fine. Alright. Are we gonna go like into the brain stuff? Because like you totally sparked when you're talking about like in utero and your heartbeat and all of that and so I feel like there is just a lot there that we should talk about. There is a lot there and we're gonna talk about it. Great. That is gonna be awesome. I have a story, but I'll figure out when, tell my story. So go You have a story? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Tell me about the brain and how it goes. Da da. Okay, so I actually had to like look this up. First of all, do you remember like, I don't know, like 50 episodes ago when I was talking to you about like, my whole problem with music? I mean, yes. Uhhuh, yes. Okay. You talk about it pretty often, but Oh, oh, okay. Got, okay. So I, I did a little more digging people. Oh. So now, you know. Yes. So you know why you have a psychological problem. Yes. And like, first of all, I figured out it's not a lot of people. Right. So that's, that's the good news, but, well, that is good news because. What we'd have, we'd have a big problem if it was everyone who had your problem. No, no, no, no, no. Right. I know. Okay, so it's something called hyperconnected brain circuits. I'm gonna get super sophisticated here for a second. Okay? Okay. Uh, the brain's, auditory and motor regions fire together instantaneously. So it sort of forces me to move when I hear music, like I cannot control it. Okay? Like it's just the way I'm wired. Okay. Can I tell a story before your Intel story? Yeah, yeah. Because my story has nothing to do with this story. Oh, oh, okay. Okay. So you know Luke like, yes. Yes. Uhhuh. So he's the exact opposite of me. Right? Like literally. Okay. I mean, we love Luke, so if I'm hyper synchronized, then he's what you would call like a hypo. Oh, okay. Synchronized. Okay. Like nothing's connected. Wires flapping all over the place. Not connected at all, right? Like he hears music. Zero reaction. Amanda. Like, not like no foot tap, no head. I, when we go to, yeah, when we go to dinner, I notice uhhuh, he's, I think he's to rhythm. To rhythm. Like he's pretty bad. So. White boy ain't got no rhythm. I don't know what to tell you. It's fine. No, like the other day I noticed like he doesn't like turn it on in the car. He will drive in the car silent. Oh. Like do you know the only other person I know who ever did that psychopath? Uh, no. Her name was Gabby. Aww. Oh really? Freaky. Sorry, but didn't mean that. Okay. I, I could use Corpuscular again. Like, like this is excellent. So he's like, you know what he is, he's emotionally. Ular. Yes. That's what he is. He is. He's like gray. He's like dusk. He's emotionally dusk and twilight. Oh, that's my son. Yeah. Yeah. Which is really sad because I don't know how to deal with it, but we come from a family of freaking weirdos and we all know that. Yeah. And I looked up statistics. Okay. And literally there's 5% on each end. So like I'm on one end looks on the other end and like 90% of people are in between. And so like we can do this episode because like we're gonna speak to 90% of people. But also like the way that you're talking about how it was Gabby Yes. And how Luke has it. Yes. And that's not you. And I assume Ruth is more like you Paul. Paul? No, not really, because Paul's a music one. Yeah. Okay. Paul? No, me, me and Paul can, yeah, we, it's weird. Oh, okay. So you and Paul. Mm-hmm. And then it would be Luke and Gabby. Yep. Is this then like a DNA thing? Oh my God, I have no idea you were born. We need to get like a real doctor on this. Like, I feel like you need to take like we samples and, yeah. Samples. Are we taking samples? What? Are we taking samples of Amanda? I don't know. Okay. Alright. Can, can I like get back to like some super sophisticated shit now please. Like, I wanna get back to the science stuff. That's what I asked you. I wanted to know about the brainy stuff. Okay. Alright. Time for neuroscience people. Here we go. Buckle up. Okay, so when you hear a beat B, bubble B, you're so stupid. Oh my God. Okay. You think it's just your ears hearing it? B. B, okay. My ears are definitely hearing you. Okay, I get it. It's actually way more complicated than that. It's a full on body, brain experience. Yeah. It's 'cause your inner ear kind of like, oh my god, triggers. Oh God. Are you gonna, are you gonna nerd out on me? Difference? Yeah. 'cause I just went to the audiologist and it's fascinating and you have not done an audio test. You need to go do it. I'm glad you went to an audiologist because you needed to take one and I'm glad somebody, are you trying to in infer that? I don't listen. Told this is a, this is a very micro, but I can't hear, what do you call it? A microaggression. Microaggression. I'm being microaggressive. Okay. Um, okay, so first you have this auditory cortex. You have one both sides of your brain, right above your ears. Yep. Uhhuh, it's responsible for processing sound. Yep. Pitch volume, rhythm, whatever. Okay. It's basically like your own internal personal dj. Right. Detects patterns and predicts the next beats almost automatically, but hold that for a second. That's why we can finish each other's sentences. Oh my God. Sandwiches. Finish other sandwiches. Okay. Then you have the motor cortex. This is located towards the top, middle part of your brain. It's the part that's responsible for movement, even when you're sitting still. So like when you start to hear a beat, your motor cortex. Is the one that starts prepping your body to move in time to the beat. Like even if you don't actually move, it's like getting ready. Okay, so this is how your brain's short circuited, right? 'cause mine are connected. Just fucking, it just happens. Yes, same time. Okay. Uhhuh. Okay. The last part is something called the basal ganglia and the cerebellum. Yes. These ones are deep, deep in the brain and responsible for all your timing and coordination. They make you not look like an idiot when you dance. Like they give, I mean, some people do, but you know, yeah. Whatcha gonna do? Okay, but hold on. What? I get all the brain stuff. Yes. What and what each thing does. If we're gonna put it together for everybody. Super simple. I'm ready. You are? Yes. Okay. Okay. This is because you are you. 'cause I mean, you don't even think about it. Your body just does it. You just short circuited me. I was ready to explain that you, oh, sorry. You short circuited me. Okay. Your brain is obsessed with predicting what's coming next. Well, that's how we learn, right? I mean, that's like inherent in us. It's literally all we ever tried to do. Yes, yes. You are absolutely correct. Yes, yes, yes. So when you hear a steady beat, specifically drums like, or a percussion part of a song, like the baseline, those kind of things, it gives your brain something satisfying to anticipate. And then, um, do you remember the psychology episode? Mm sure do. Right? Remember when we learned about dopamine? You remember dopamine? Yeah. Uhhuh on the feelgood chemical. Oh, reward system. It is a feelgood chemical, you know? Right. So, exactly. So putting it all together real quick here, when you hear a beat, first, your auditory cortex processes and sound. Then your motor cortex gets your body ready to move. Yeah. Except in your case, they happen at the same time. Totally. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then the basal ganglia and cerebellum time, everything perfectly. So you look cool doing it when you start moving. I mean, not everyone looks cool, so I don't know what you're saying. Most every 90% of people look cool. Okay. As long as we have asterisk there. Right? Asterisk. Okay, fine. And then finally, your brain rewards you with the hit of dopamine because you, you predicted everything correctly and started moving. Okay, dude. Let's get some tunes going in here. Like I don't even, I'm not even listening to music right now, Amanda, and I'm ready to dance. This is my problem. Okay. Like I already want to start dancing. Well, but it's also because you always have music going on in your head. Yeah. So that's just kind of, um, but I think when I hear all of this, yes. I feel like it ties into therapy. Bump bump, right? How Like music, dancing, bump bump, and even like trauma recovery, just kind of all. Goes together. Yes it does. And I do know a little bit about that. Thank God that you researched that part. 'cause I didn't do shit. Well and I don't know if I, how much I researched, but lemme just tell you from lived experience what I know. Let's go. So, oh my God, I love this. This is authentic. Yes it is. It is. Uh, so we have a friend and she does music therapy. Um, especially for little kiddos. Definitely helps like with trauma. Right. And so if we're, let's maybe start with trauma. I love trauma. 'cause trauma in and of itself causes the brain's communication networks to freeze or even sometimes disconnect specifically your prefrontal cortex and your amygdala. And that can lead to some weird stuff that happens. So like you can have panic attacks and overreaction, which causes your body, okay. I think what you're telling me, sorry, is that my prefrontal cortex and Ula, I wasn't necessarily, I've been, I've been disconnected for some No, no, no, no. Because in your case, you feel safe, right? But when it's disconnected, you don't feel safe when you really are. Right. Oh, so it's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're hyper. All the things. And it has been scientifically proven that rhythm, specifically moving rhythmically. Do you know what? I know. Sorry I interrupt you all the time, but I can't help it. You just said moving rhythmically. Yes. Uh, made me think of Gabby. Oh, does she move rhythmically? We moved rhythmically, if you know what I mean. Oh, you did? It's see? Yes. Okay. Sorry. About five times a week. Much. Oh, remember everyone much. This is not a PG podcast, right? It was Okay. Anyways, so it every Saturday. Okay, sorry. Um, um, it reconnects those networks. That we were just talking about. And it helps people feel safe and reconnected to their bodies. And studies have shown, and I quote that Dance Movement Therapy or DMT can reduce symptoms of PTSD depression and anxiety by improving emotional regulation through rhythmic movement. That is absolutely amazing. It is. I also wanna figure out though, like. If this can help people with Alzheimer's and dementia, 'cause that would help my life a lot right now. Um, but I Can you please start researching that? 'cause I am nervous about that whole thing. Oh, me too. Okay. Yes, me do. Okay. So I'm gonna learn from you. Okay. Okay. Okay, fine. Yeah. But they have proven that with like Parkinson's. It helps patients with walking. Wait, seriously? Yes. So kind of like, okay. Recap of this a little bit. So, Parkinson's disease is the one that affects movement by damaging the brain's ability for action. Wait a second. That's Michael J. Fox, right? Parkinson's. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Right. Okay. And so the idea of music, especially the kind with a very clear and steady beat, it like hacks their motor system and helps a patient walk more smoothly with less Wait. No, no, no. How? Like, wait, how? Right. Well, think about it. So it's a rhythm. It acts kinda like a clock, sort of, or like, um, those thing that sit on your piano. A metronome. A metronome. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, got you. Right. So bypasses the brain screwed up internal timing system. And then patients, oh, because that's what's wrong. Their internal timing system's off. Yeah. So they use an external time. This is so unbelievable. So it like triggers that part of the brain and patients like start walking faster or better, smoother, uh, better balance. Oh my god. But only when they're listening to music with a steady rhythm because it keeps them on. I think we need to invite Michael J. Fox on the show. We could do a whole pod. Like he probably does this all the time. 'cause he's like, I mean, yes, he probably does like the poster boy for this, which is amazing. But I think it would be fascinating to know if they actually have done that. Do you know, like Right. Yeah. That's amazing. If he's done music therapy before, I think I'm, I'm, I'm sure. I don't know. But I love the way he also is just out there and living his life and doing what he wants to do. You should And makes like zero excuse for any of it. Love and love just moves on. Love it. Yep. He's amazing rockstar. Yes. Completely and totally. And then like finally, the only other thing I kind of really have is it also can help with rhythm and speech therapy. Oh, of course. RST, duh. Well, what is that, Peter? I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. But apparently rhythm and speech therapy is very important. So stuttering. Oh my god. It's stuttering. Yes. Okay. Can you do me a favor? Can you not talk so sophisticated next time please. Okay. I'll try. Just say it helps with stuttering. I'll, okay, I'll try. Thank you. You know, first of all, I'm the audience. I don't know any of this stuff. Okay. Well, but that's what they refer to as. Right? Okay, fine. Got it. Thank you. When you're talking about therapies, you're No, no, you're I right. I would be that. We should know that you are correct. Okay, so speech, yes. When you really think about it, at its very core is rhythmic. Really? Yeah. I mean, it's the natural timing of syllables and stresses and people who stutter have disruptions in this timing and thus the rhythm control in the brain. I, I, I love that you know this. This is awesome again. Only because have a friend who's a this therapy. I don't know. I think that's super cool. It's, I have, I have a friend whose kid stutters and I didn't take five minutes to learn. So I'm an asshole and I'm gi like, but I isn't amazing though. Like I think I'm giving you a lot of credit right now. Thank you. Which I normally don't do. So I wanna do this on air. I'll do this live. You're amazing. I love you. And all the microaggressions that I've ever taken out on you in the last 55 episodes you're given, hopefully it's just made up, disappears. Um. But that's what it's like. I feel like music therapy is such a lesser known therapy model, um, because it really, like even for stuttering, right? It can help so many people speak more fluently. Or I wonder if Emma uses this like, in her like world with like autistic children. Yeah. I'm gonna go home master, because that's, I mean, that's a high Oh shit. Percentage of her. Oh, did you, patients, did you ever see the King speech at what, yes. Uhhuh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, wait. You really did? Yep. Oh my God, I'm, I'm having a moment right now. I'm so like four Academy Awards. It was amazing. Okay. It was great. Like Colin Firth, king George, was it King George sixth? I think it was King Georgia sixth. Ooh, I think so. It was Queen Elizabeth's dad, like, well, queen Elizabeth's second dad, whatever. Like, I think it's okay. Don't quote me on it. Um, he was a total stutterer. Yeah. Right. Uh, and then Jeffrey Rush plays the Dr. Guy who helps him get over the speech impediment and totally uses what you just explained with the whole like, yes. Music therapy. It was fast. I'm going back, I'm watching this movie again tonight. They were a incredible together. It it's good one. They were totally incredible together. Alright, but hold on. Fun fact. What? You have a fun fact. I do. What? And it's about stuttering. Did you know Ed Sheeran had a stutter? No, not has had a stutter. My boy Ed, no. Yep, yep, yep. Ca on hill. Let's go. He stuttered until he was like 10 years old and then his dad gave him one of Eminem's albums and he like memorized the whole thing and started learning how to work through his stutter through rap music. That's insane. It's crazy. Okay, so if I'm tracking now. Um, basically what you're saying is we don't just like move to a beat or a rhythm. It's like way bigger than that. We're like healing people. We're like connecting with people. Can, they can, yeah. Yes. Mm-hmm. We're like, we're really just sinking up like our minds and bodies at like a way deeper level than we actually think we are. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it all just happens naturally. 'cause our brains are amazing. Yes. It's totally amazing. It's crazy. Uh, can I subject change? Are you good or do you have anything else there? Yeah, no, that's pretty much it. Okay, because I wanna talk about the baby part, said the baby. Oh, baby. The, in the, in utero pot. Yes. Okay. Let's talk. Okay. Remember at the beginning when we said it all starts at birth? Uh, it totally does. Mommy's tummy, I know. Um, lullabies, right? That's why we use lullabies, like with patterns, like to soothe babies. When they cry, your brain literally synchronizes with tempo. It's called entrainment. Entrainment. Huh? Didn't know there was a word for it. There is. All right. Thank you very much. We'll use that next week, okay. As are of the day, um, by about 16 to 18 weeks of pregnancy. That's four months. I quote, 'cause I know doctor a fetus can start hearing sound mostly low, muffled sounds like their mother's heartbeat, blood flow, and external rhythms like music or voices. By 25 to 30 weeks, the auditory system is developed enough that the fetus response to sounds outside the womb. Studies have shown that babies in the womb can recognize rhythms, patterns, and even simple melodies and respond to changes in tempo, volume, and pitch. Right? And so that's not bullshit. The reason why is because remember I said I had a story. Here's my story. Time, let's go. So when I was pregnant with Addie, we would take headphones and I would put it around my belly. Like once it was like big enough to put headphones on. Yes. And so at like, I think that's the cutest thing already. 37 weeks, maybe 38 weeks. Um. We put them on and you, I mean, by that time, they're like a full baby, right? Yes, correct. There was this huge and no more space, but you literally, we put the headphones on. There was no movement. It played for a little bit, and you just saw her whole body. No, like Mo, her arm came up like it was so alien. Like she was just like, reach outta my stomach. Like comes all the way up and then she just kind of like flips over and then she just kinda like sat there and then there was like a upbeat, you know, the chorus part of it and when it started getting a little heavier tempo, she started moving. It was like, it was bizarre. That's insane. An alien feeling. But that's when I like hundred percent believe this. That's right. That's the coolest feeling ever. Truth right there. Yeah. There's real science behind it. That's insane. Okay. Can I do some more nerdy science quotes? Absolutely. Okay. Stay with me here. So scientists have confirmed that early exposure to rhythmic patterns, like you were saying, mom's heartbeat or soft music helps shape the developing auditory cortex. And this rhythm helps the brain practice that whole thing of predicting patterns, one of our core survival skills. So this early rhythmic exposure is believed to prime the brain for language development, emotional regulation, and even social bonding. So it's like the building block for everything else. Life is amazing. They actually have studies, not like real studies, but like, I guess it would be unethical if like they did studies where they like, well, didn't allow big, right, whatever. But like some famous research documented, like on children in Romanian orphanages, I looked this up during the 1980s and nineties, showed what severe sensory deprivation actually does. Like, oh, it's, it was like, they obviously not, but it's not why they, obviously not controlled on purpose, but like for sure they couldn't help it. Limited language, higher stress, cognitive delays. It was a mess. These babies were just born, stuck in an orphanage, got none of this, and as a result, we're super, super developmentally delayed. I mean, they're absolutely some truth to that because isn't that why we have solidarity confinement? Yes. Where it's like, no noise. It's terrible. No interactions, Amanda. Like, it just, it's brutal. Messes with the brain. I mean, there's also, they've said, all I know is I, like when I started this episode, I was like, okay, we're gonna do some stuff on rhythm. Like I'm hooked. Like this is cool, this is cool crap. Their music, like the way that rhythm is like underlying everything. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's why with like kids go to sleep, you should play them classical music. Yeah. 'cause as the music is playing in their studio, thank you very much. I is like taking it all in. It's. Fantastic. Okay, so well we've covered how Rhythm heals. What time did your kids go to sleep? Did they go to sleep during that? Like corpuscular time, right? Well played, but we're also not talking about that 'cause you'll just like gimme shit for it. Sorry, my bad. So we've covered. How Rhythm heals and then how it wires our brains in pregnant bellies and how it's baked into who we are, like our DNA as human beings in general. Yeah, but I wanna go bigger. Oh, let's go. I love when you go big, go big. So instead of doing all the neuro stuff inside our bodies, what if we went outside of our bodies? Like how entire cultures and civilizations use it to tell the stories that you were talking about earlier and how they show the world who they are, literally without having to say a single word. I love this. I love what you're going, 'cause I, I feel like you can hear it everywhere once you like start listening and paying attention. Totally. I mean the body movement, the how it makes you feel, the stories that it's telling like Samba and Brazil or hip hop in the Bronx, or I dunno, reggae in Jamaica. Oh, reggae man. K-pop in Korea, like it's outside. Even outside of Eurovision, I feel like K-pop and Korea, there's, you had to throw that in there. I mean, you did that. That's a whole thing, right? But that, but your point, but isn't magically the point's super valid. Yeah. I you, I totally get what you're saying here, like this is not just music at this point. This is like, oh, it's identity. Right? Thank you. It's about the people. You nailed it. Love it. Who lived them? Yeah, I don't know. Alright, so like, gimme an example of one, like give do samba or something. Like, gimme, gimme a little bit of like how it was born. Okay. So like samba, um, let's see. It was started in Brazil, right? Shout out. Was it? Shout out to the carnival episode. Yes. Amanda, let's go. Yes. Okay. Um, but so if, just a little recap for anybody who hasn't listened to the carnival episode yet. It was born out of the collision between. African rhythms and Portuguese colonial influence during Brazil's post-slavery period. And it was used as a way for the Afro-Brazilians to celebrate survival and to push back against oppression. Yeah. So today it's, it's how, that's even why Carnival was born. Yes. Like it's amazing. Yeah. I mean it's the whole thing. Yeah. But specifically the heartbeat of Brazil is samba. Oh. But yeah, absolutely. And I mean, it's kind of why we even had a episode to do. It's all about the culture. Solid plug. It's all about the culture baby. It is, right? Probably one of my favorite episodes. Who know? But you see that same like tracking and DNA, even like hip hop and like side note, we do need to do a episode on hip hop. I'm on it. I mean, I'll ask, we probably missed it when we should have done it after the Kendrick Lamar. I'll, I'll find a reason. It's, don't worry. I'll throw it in there. We'll find it. Okay. You gotta love the hip hop. Do you know where hip hop started? Uh, I'm embarrassing myself. Nope. No. Well, the Bronx in Really? Yes. In the 1970s. My, I feel like you should remember this. It's like I should have known that. You should totally remember. It's kind of like the era that you were born in. Oh, okay. I was still just listening to my mom's heartbeat then. Okay, fair, fair. I didn't have it all figured out yet. Different type of beat. Yeah. Um, okay. So some kids just grabbed a few turntables and they started rapping and it was heavy and it was fast, and it was like super repetitive and not because they were trying to make pop songs or anything like that, but. They were using the rhythm as a survival tool. Like they needed to be heard, they needed to get the word out and they needed to have a voice. And it did. It gave a voice to all of the marginalized communities in their neighborhoods, and ultimately it spread to build an entire global movement that literally still shapes culture today. Hence Lamar at the Super Bowl. I am loving this right now. Like, first of all, you're preaching to the choir, right? Like, you know this because I love music. Um, and just the fact that you're like. As into this, I didn't know you were gonna do like all this research and get all into this with me and like have all this to bring. I'm a little excited, I'm not gonna lie, but if you realize how much music plays a part in our cultures Yeah. And our brains. And our bodies, I think it just gives way to how important music should be in our lives. It's nuts. And I'm not gonna steal your thunder, but I'm gonna do a little like. Protests. Right. Okay. Like they use it for protests. Yeah. Yeah. So like you were just explaining like how it's giving Afro bazillions a voice. It was giving the folks in the Bronx a voice, right? Like, so, so think of protests, right? And I'm, I'm right. Gonna get a little nerdy here and quote a little bit. Okay. So throughout history, oppressed groups have used rhythm to communicate when open speech would've been dangerous. African slaves in the Americas developed intricate drum patterns, call and response songs and spirituals to send hidden messages to one another. Certain rhythms or lyrics could signal escape plans or secret meetings, even when drumming was banned because Enslavers realized drumming had power. People adapted using body percussion, clapping, and foot stomps. Anything to keep the beat alive. And like Amanda, when you think about it for a second, like that totally makes sense. Like, because it does take like crowds of people, like all randomly and put them together in like one giant unified force. Right? Think of the American Civil Rights Movement and the song We Shall Overcome. Yeah. Or like you're right, exactly. Like sell the whole march on Selma. Like Right. That's like. Think of, uh, the toy toy dance movement in South Africa during the anti-apartheid protest. It literally is the link that holds everything together. But is there a theory behind it? Thoughts about that? Or is there like actual theory? Yeah, no, the I, there, there's theory. It's easy. It's instinctive, right? It's like what we've been talking about this whole time. You don't have to, you don't have to learn it to actually feel it. It just works. Like it's not, there's no pressure, right? It's automatic because it's in your internal responses. And so I quote, moving together sinks, brainwaves, and boosts trust. It gives emotional strength when logic says you should give up, and like I would totally argue like. This is me talking like not science people like right now. So like it's really hard to stop people so. Imagine a man if like you ban songs or like you ban drums like the Enslavers did like a long time ago, or ban people from forming protests, like they're still gonna find ways to stomp. They're still gonna find ways to clap. They're still gonna find ways to chant. They're still gonna find ways to do something together in rhythm. To make their point because it's their lifeblood. It, it's queen. You remember Queen? Mm-hmm. We will rock you. Yeah, right. Stomp, stomp, clap, stomp like everybody knows it. The whole point was they wanted people to be able to participate without like having to do anything, and that's why it became like this freaking iconic song. Right. It's insane. I mean, it's really incredible when you think about it, how rhythm just shows up even when people are told to be silent. I love that and it's powerful. It gives me chills. I mean, this actually turned out to be a really interesting episode. Good job, Peter. Thank you. But I think it's time for my favorite section. Fun fact. Fun. That one. I love this part. Are you ready? Yes, I'm ready. You fun fact to me. Are you sure? You have nothing else to add, Amanda? Because you were like going off, you had your stories, you had your like No, I think we had the pretty bow. We had head headphones on the belly. I was kind of excited. Alright. All about music. All right. The Beats first. Fun fact. Okay. It's actually a scientific fact because I've done a lot of scientific quoting here. You have, right? Well, I had to because remember, I'm in that 5% group of weirdos. Yes. So, yeah. Okay. Okay. First one. Scientific fact. You literally can't dance offbeat to some songs. No. That's not true. No, you can't. No. Listen, what? No. Uptown Funk Bruno Mars, or Staying Alive. So rhythmically. Oh, I see. This is science because there's like bump bump. You can tell about the way I, okay. They're so tally strong. Your motor cortex basically hijacks your body. So what? Staying alive comes on. Everybody turns into me. They can't help it. They just go, that's funny. Even white people. Okay. Um. Number two, sea shanties. You know the sea shanty? No. You don't know sea shanty. What are sea shanties? Uhhuh? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Like the really old, like you learn 'em on the piano when you a kid. Oh, okay. Yeah, I was a fan. Asian, no piano. It's classic. Sorry. Like that was considered like the first workout playlist. Here's why sailors would sing those songs to help coordinate their work. Like hauling ropes or like rowing oars. Huh? So like the beat kept everyone moving together and made their labor like, huh? More tolerable time went by faster. C shanties. Yeah. Interesting. You gotta on the way home tonight, let's, let's it let's some ct. Yeah. But a little seas. And when the kids get in, there's like a good, there's like a gazillion different sea shanties when the kids get in and be like, listen kids, this is how you get your work done. Let's go. Right. Well, it's like. What, uh, Mary Poppins, right? That's She did the same thing. That's she, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoonful sugar makes the medicine good. Okay. Number three, synchronized movement. Uh, AKA dancing for us less sophisticated. Okay. Okay. Okay. Synchronized movement, right, builds instant trust. When humans move together, rhythmically like dancing, clapping, or marching, it increases oxytocin. The trust chemical rhythm literally turns strangers into teammates. I mean, Como marching band. Okay, so. Why do dudes work so hard at like pickup lines? I'm just gonna walk out on a dance floor, start dancing with someone, and if they look at me funny, I'm gonna be like, aren't I building trust with you right now? Should I feel like this should be working? I dunno, instant bond, I feel like you should try this so we can see if it's like creeper or, okay. Number four, did you know that some animals can actually dance animals? So apparently elephants, sea lions, and certain parrots can actually move to a beat. I mean like, yeah, you see like the gray, like African pars or whatever. Yes. Like you play the like, do. So this is interesting. So I had to look this up 'cause I was sort of weirded out by it. So chimpanzees, who you would argue are our closest like relatives. Yeah. Yeah. They can't, oh, that's a fun factor there. Even though they have opposable thumbs, they can't do it. They, no, it has to do with like their language capacity. Like, I'm not saying they all have language, but like the vocal elephants, sea lines, dolphins, they're all way higher on that scale. Yeah. And as a result. They're able to, and they, I don't, they don't have a ton of evidence on dolphins because I mean, like, that's sort of weird, like, why are you gonna shove music down there? But, um, yeah, they can actually keep time to a beat. Totally freaking awesome. Okay. And finally, the oldest musical instrument ever found was a 40 a drum. I'm just kidding. Actually, I don't know how this is gonna go. It was a 43,000 year old flute. A flute. Yes. Which is a lot older than 10,000 years with a drum. Yeah. So I'm having a moment here. So, um, so it was made of a bare femur of all things. Uh, there was, and they like hollowed it out. Yeah. Discovered it in Slovenia in 1995. A different group of them made from vulture bones were found in 2008 in southern Germany. Both sets were carbonated around 43,000 years ago. Huh? So I guess the drum thing was like in 10,000 years ago, that was the first drum they found. New drum. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Huh? I wouldn't have picked flute to be the first instrument ever found there. Go. Okay. Or the oldest instrument. I think it's kind of cool, like if you think about it though, because they started making music before they like invented like farming, like before we, before we had language, before we had farming, before we had agriculture. That's crazy. Like, we're like hollowing out sticks and making flutes. I mean, I guess it also like predates the wheel. Holy Jesus. Right? Wouldn't it? I don't know. I think it does. I don't know. I feel, Amanda, I mean, you just said like 43,000 years ago. That is serious. I dunno, my brain's still catching up to that. We're we're all connected. We're all connected. That's it. That's all my fun facts. Okay. What, before we call it a day, what? I think we have to pull it all together so we can pretend that we already knew of this stuff and the cultured when we're around our waterproof. I don't know. You did pretty good today. I don't know that you need the recap. Well, I if I do, but you know, just for like the people who wanna fast forward the podcast and get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta, yeah. Where you're just like, hey. I know a bunch of shit about rhythm. Are you ready for this? Yep. Okay, let's go. Uh, only one call to action this week. People. Um, one. Yeah. And it's way more fun than reading a book. 'cause I always tell people to read books, right? You do. I know. Well, 'cause I Are you gonna say like, turn the radio on? No, I'm gonna say for this week, pick one country. Oh, one country that you've never explored musically. Yep. Explore it. Fair. Figure it out. Dance in the kitchen. Turn on Amazon. Way to get it a little more cultured there. Like get it right. Good job. Spend one week doing this. This is not that complicated. Right? Let's do it. Okay, let's go. Uh, and then here's all you need to remember to be sort of sophisticated. Okay. Go first, first, first, first. Okay. Humans were wired for rhythm before we even had language. Babies respond to beats before they respond to speech. Rhythm is literally our first language. Second. Do. Thank you very much. Every culture. I love this bilingual, every culture on earth has used rhythm to build communities through dancing, drumming, stomping, clapping, chanting. No instruments, no problem. Rhythm is baked into us all. Third, I don't know any more languages. Okay, fine. Your brain. Uh. S fine dry. I Your brain isn't just hearing music. It's predicting the beat before it even happens. And when you get it right, your brain gives you a shot of dopamine, like the little good job sticker. Keep it going. Let's go Fourth. Moving together to a beat actually sinks brain waves between people. Dancing is not just for weddings, Amanda, it's biology. It's a way of tricking your brain into trusting strangers. Let's go. I don't like strangers. Yeah. Stranger danger. Uh, and finally, rhythm is a dancer. Rhythm. Okay. Not really. Uh, just kidding. Rhythm has fueled revolutions from slave songs to protest Marches from sea shanties to K-pop. Rhythm isn't just for parties, it's the ultimate survival tool disguised as a jam session. People rhythm. Amen. Well, wait, I got one more. Oh, you do? I got one more fun fact. I completely forgot about, oh, what bees. Like B bees. Okay. Do you know bees have rhythm honeybees? They perform a waggle dance. I'm not making this up. Okay. They perform a waggle dance to tell other bees where to find flowers. It includes vibrational pulses and rhythmatic movements. Interesting. They're highly patterned and almost choreographed. Huh? We are connected and reliant on bees for our like livelihood. I'm just so you can tell me anything about a bee and I would believe you because they're like the center of system stuff. If you, if you don't believe in like bigger things than just us. That's true. That's true. This was a good episode to sort of take a minute and be like, dude, it's bigger than us. That's true. Because we were just talking about animals, we were talking about bees. We're talking about the womb. We're talking about cultures. We're talking about everything's connected. Yeah. Okay. It's always connected. Yeah. Alright. Close this out. There you have it, folks. A deep dive into how Rhythm has basically been running the world since we figured out how to slap two rocks together. Rhythm isn't just about background noise, it's how we survive, connect, and show off. And if we did our job today, hopefully you're walking away a little more sophisticated with a global rhythm IQ and a fresh excuse for why you should start tapping your foot every time you hear music in the grocery store. The takeaway is pretty simple. You're tapping into a language that's older than words, deeper than history, and bigger than any one place. Rhythm isn't optional, it's human. If you enjoy this episode, subscribe, leave a review and pass it on to someone who still claps on the wrong beat and you know who they are. Oh my God. Did you just screw, you're in the way. You clap on B. Okay. Thank you. You're fine. All right. But until next time, stay curious, stay connected, and stay just slightly offbeat. It's a little more fun that way. I totally is. Yes.
