Episode Transcript
Hey guys, we're back. Pete and Amanda at it again. Uh, Amanda, I'm just going to rip the band aid, okay? We're rebranding. I'm going through a full rebranding right now. We're doing a PSA right now. Okay. Amanda was right. Peter was wrong. Oh, I like this PSA. Yes, okay. So, welcome to Sort of Sophisticated Sort. of Sophisticated. Really? I don't think anybody cares except for maybe when they're looking for a website and they can't find it because everyone says SORTA. SORTA was way better. So like, it's hysterical, but yes, you were totally right. Whatever. A year ago, when we were sitting there chatting, you were like Hey dummy, SORTA's gonna sound better. And I'm like No, make it professional. I think it's our generations. It's a generational thing. You did good. I did bad. I'm going on record. Amanda was right. Okay, and then just to be clear. We're still doing the same thing though What do you mean the same thing? I'm saying podcast and we're tempted to make sense of the world by over analyzing I don't know random topics that we think are gonna make us more cultured. Uh, totally. We're not we're not changing the podcast We're just going from sort of to sorta. Okay, we're not I'm here for it. Okay, fine and why are we even drinking coffee today? What are we doing? Are we trying to be sophisticated or something? You're drinking coffee? I don't believe that's just coffee in that cup right there. Uh, I am not drinking. I spiked my coffee. That tracks. Okay, fair. I was just wondering why coffee was in the studio to begin with. That's all I was wondering because I don't love coffee so I had to fix it. Okay, fair. With my own little Concoction. Yes. Concoction. You know what? Concoction. Word of the day. Can we do that or no? It's a good one. It's a good one. And it's not in October, so it's harder to do. Yeah, I know. Okay, so what are we talking about today? Uh, today we're talking generational divide. I just said that. When did you say that? Well, we were talking about sort of and sorta, how it's because your generation is so old school and mine would pick sorta. Okay, so you are correct. We're gonna go big like, we're talking about how generations make fun of each other all the time. You know what I mean? Like, sort of and sorta. Okay. Right. Is this kind of like how you quote outdated? TV shows, like Friends and Seinfeld, all the time. Wow, why don't you relax, okay? Uh, they're hysterical, and uh, settle down over there, Miss Participation Trophy. Okay? I'm just saying, sometimes I just don't get it. I I There is something about people who are, die hard. Seinfeld, and friends, fans. I'm not diehard. Okay, relax. I just happen to like the humor. Okay, I don't know that that's generational. Okay, fair. But we do have to stay true to, like, being cultured and curious, you know? So, it's in our tagline. We just probably should continue. You've already changed the name, so we should just continue with our day to day. I've already had too much whiskey in my coffee. I can't stay true to anything. But you gotta do a little educating. This just can't be purely opinion. Alright, fine. We'll add some stuff in, so it won't just be about making fun of each other the whole episode. But TBH, that would be totally fire. Can we do four of the day, please? But you already picked it. I thought it was concoction. No, it's not concoction. Okay, okay, fine. I got it this time then. Okay, what? What, what, what? Extemporize. Extemporize? Yeah. Extemporize? Like, is that the same as improvise? Mmm, pretty close, actually. Good job. But a little bit of a difference. What's the difference? To improvise means to compose or perform something without any prep, whereas extemporize means to say or do something without any prep. like, spur of the moment. Oh, got it. Totally. Like, my whole life is one big extemporization, if that's a thing. I'm ready to go. Okay. I got this. Now you made it an adjective? Yeah. Extemporize or extemporization works totally. Okay? Listen, we're totally sophistication over here. Uh, let's launch. So why does learning about the generational divide, or, I guess, generational jabs, make us more cultured and curious in the first place? Like, what's this all about? Well, I would say it's because we're each in one unique generation, and at any point in time, our generation has to exist with five or four, has to exist with other generations. And I think that sometimes when you use jokes or jabs or This divide, as you're calling it, it's a way that we see how we collide. And sometimes we get it, sometimes we don't. Sometimes we laugh at ourselves or we connect with each other. Sometimes we gain self awareness because something didn't land. But that's the whole reason why we started this podcast in the first place, right? Is to gain some self awareness. I love that. Totally. It's all about self awareness. So why don't we, instead of fun facts today, why don't we do a section where we kind of go over what we call quote unquote old people phrases that I think younger generations just don't get. Before I agree to this? How old are old people phrases? I mean. I'm gonna say older than you, how about that? Then I'm very excited about doing this. Okay, fair. But I'll, like, just to see how these phrases don't really hit with the younger generations. Okay, wait, wait, wait, then we can Google this shit. And then, I have an idea. So then, we'll like, look this stuff up. And then, We can figure out like how Gen Z would say it in the language that like a boomer would say it You know, like we'll give the boomer phrase and then the Gen Z Okay, well you give the Gen Z of whatever, you know, I'll try to give the Gen Z. Remember I am Millennial, I'm actually the last generation. They took away my generation. I'm like the last generation. Really? We're doing this? They did. Gen Y No longer. At least you have a name. Millennial. I didn't even get a name. You're Gen X. I could they couldn't think of a name X is Elon Musk's favorite letter. So I think you're good probably because It's because X marks the spot. Okay, whatever. Um, you start Googling like all your phrases, uh, while I keep talking. Okay? Okay. All right. So quick history lesson on generations. So we're going to go serious first because I was doing all this research and I realized like. I mean, I have no idea like how they pick generations or like who even was they who was picking them like in the first place So I think I never thought about who picked a generation or how it starts or yeah, so I'm like googling all stuff I'm like checking all this stuff out. I'm like, oh Millennials Oh Jenna and I'm like, wait a second What how do we label these who are these? I'm intrigued all this stuff. I'm intrigued. All right, so like It wasn't all perfect and easy to figure out either so they're like not all like super clear like they're not every 15 years They're not all organized. I noticed that yeah, it's like it's kind of random So they're based on like a group of people born within a certain time span Based on of course like the idea of some shared cultural social or like historical influence during their childhood, okay And usually, like, something really big goes with that, like, World War II or, like, the civil rights era. Or, like, Y2K. Y2K. Bingo. The iPhone. Like, something like that. Oh, the tech. That makes sense. It's super rando, but I think it's things that changes as a culture, which changes the generational, I would assume, gaps or periods. Totally. Yes, so I love it So then so then like then who are the people right? Like who are the people who decide all this? So I didn't know that either so it's not like some people like sit in a corner and like have some secret club and figure all this out Like it's just some sociologists and probably some marketers. Who are we kidding that end up like assigning ranges After they do all this research, and then like, sort of publish all their stuff, and it's like nothing really super exciting. Like, some sociologist, he'll write a book, and then all of a sudden somebody else is like, Oh yeah, I like that, and then like, But how do we trust that one sociologist? We don't. Like, that's my point. It's like, it has to be like group think over a period of time. And so back to the whole millennials, where I said like, at least you have like a name. So you were Gen Y. Yeah. Right? Like forever. And then we weren't. And then you weren't. Thank you. So who took it away? Sociologists. They figured out that like you were a millennial generation and it made more sense. Same thing with baby boomers say, but I don't really identify solidly. No, I'm not this as a millennial. I'm sorry. So I need to know who to write my complaints to. you do to the sociology group goes God, everything goes back to God for me. Okay. It's very simple. Fair, fair. That that's why I was saying Gen X got like totally shafted because, so you're not gonna believe this, but I actually Googled that. I'm like, so will Gen X ever have a new name? And AI told me highly unlikely at this point because we're too old and nobody gives a shit. It's kind of like the Boomers. They're just the Boomers. The Boomers at least got a name! So the Gen Z's I think are getting screwed, because Gen Z's I also don't know if they'll have a name. No, but Gen Z is Zillennials. No, Zillennials are the mix between Millennials and Gen Z. That's, no, no, no, that's totally, no, now you're just, you're on the cusp, baby. That's totally different. Oh, dang, you already went down this rabbit hole. Yeah, oh, I totally did. Okay, okay, okay. Yes, all I'm saying is that if Gen Z gets an actual nickname, then the Gen Xers are the only ones that have ever been screwed. And I think it's bullshit. Okay. Because if you keep going back, even before Boomers, you had the Silent Generation, you had the Greatest Generation, they all had names, man. And then we got lazy and we did Gen X, Gen Y, Gen Z, you got a new name, Millennial, if Gen Z gets one, I'm screwed. Okay, I'll get off my soapbox. You'll be the Forgotten Generation. I'll be the what? The Forgotten Generation. That's terrible. I'm already forgotten. Okay. Okay. So anyway, that was like the whole quick story. Was that really a quick story? That was like the whole long story behind like how we pick generations and everything. The most fascinating thing, though, about how they have, like, broken out the generations is I feel like we're all, like, one team. What do you mean we're one team? Like, oh, you mean like you're one team? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like millennials. And that really, I still, this whole episode, I'm going to like claim my Gen Y. Um, but, you know, there's so many similarities. And I can just relate to my generation. Well, that's the whole point. They're like, they're like, they're like soccer teams. Right, so it's kind of brilliant. They're like any sports team, right? You're all, you're all on the same team. You're all maybe have different positions cause you know, you got your younger millennials, you got your older millennials, but you're all on the damn same team, right? And then you go play other teams. Like, you have to sit in the studio with me, and you think I suck, and that you're way better than me, so far so good, right? No. No. Yeah, of course. Um, but here's the problem, right? Like, sometimes you get, like, traded to, like, another team. Like, think about work, right? Like, how many people do you work with that are older or younger, right? Or, like, dealing with your in laws, who are, like, 105. Or, like, At church, oh my god, church, that's a huge place, right? There's a gazillion different kind of generations at church. So then you have to like make these big choices, right? You're either, like, sticking to your guns and staying on your team, being like, no, I don't want to go to that other team. Or you, like, gotta sorta have, like, some self awareness and start realizing the world isn't all about you. So what you're saying is We have to be a part of a community and get outside of ourselves. What we gotta do, I said we're doing the serious stuff first. So like, yeah, let's do a little heavy lift here. Let's do like, let's like buzz through like the four or five generations alive and active today. And like give some context, like what shaped each one. And then sort of like How to cope with each other. Make sense? Yep. Well, I know the first one, right? Okay, go. Go, go, go. Isn't it the boomers? The boomers. Well, yes. But technically, there are still some people from the silent generation, right? There are. There's probably a few left, yeah. Okay. Because boomers are anywhere from 60 to 75. Yeah, yeah. So, anyone above 75 would be silent generation. Totally. My parents were silent generation. That's a whole other thing we need to talk about at some point. Because I think depending on the generation that raised you, you have a different view of your own generation. Oh my god, you just blew my mind. Okay, sorry. I would deeply agree with that. Get back on the soapbox. Okay, so boomers, basically OGs, right? Post war vibes? Babies, babies popping out everywhere, right? Just picture your grandparents rocking out to the Beatles. Oh my god, I thought you said picture your grandparents like, you know. Rocking out, knocking boots. Period. Yes. I don't want to do that. No. They were thinking color TV was mind blowing though. They were. They were. Right? Oh my god. That's crazy. And they're the work hard, stay loyal to one company forever generation who invented suburbia and family game night. They did. I'm not mad about family game night though. I like that one. That's fun. They also protested a lot. I feel like totally make love not war. Oh, they were making they were knocking boots. Like you said, that's right Boomers, they were booming They were doing it like you do on the Discovery Channel like it was a lot and the other thing that kind of blows my mind about the boomers is that they bought their houses for what you'd spend on a used car today. You just stabbed me in the heart. I know. Because for how much I paid for my house, I cannot. Like, I shouldn't, like, of course, it goes without saying, duh. But like, when you say that out loud, that's disgusting. Like a 30, 000 or 40, 000 house. Holy shit. I know, I mean, I think it was like 20. Okay. And, though, there were Fun, funny story. Uh, Gabby and I bought a house, I don't know, 20 years ago in Yorba Lind. It was on like a, an acre. It was like an orange grove. Uh, we bought it from original owner. Uh, the house was built in 1947. We bought it for an insane amount of money, even back then, like even 20 years ago, like probably close to a million dollars, right, back then. And I, we found, like in a garage, her original bill of sale to like, cause they built the house, it cost them 21, 000 to build. the entire house. It's insane. Yeah. No, granted. I think their hourly rate was like 15 cents. Okay. But still, you know, I, I do now I want to go do my math nerd self and like figure out the percentage of actual hourly wage comparative to house price and see what that, Oh, you're still getting screwed today. Yeah. Way more today than before. I think I've done this before. I did this like 10 years ago when I was like trying to make a point to like, I forgot like my dad or something that like, I'm more screwed than he is. Because, like, what, yeah, do them, I'm, I'm interested, update, I'd be totally interested. Okay, um, okay, I'm doing Gen X because Gen X is the best generation ever, thank you very much. They're like 45 to 60 right now, and I'm just barely 45, so, um. Again, level three liar. Okay, hey, why do you have to call me out all the time? I also only weigh 160 pounds, um, and I'm six feet tall. Who's having fun? Okay, um, Gen X is like the chill middle child of history. Like. Kind of forgotten, but like, exceptionally cool. Okay? Exceptionally. Okay. Okay. We grew up on MTV, right? Then we did the whole grunge thing. And real, live, Saturday morning cartoons. All the time. I loved them. Hanna Barbera. Let's go. Okay, this isn't fair because I grew up on MTV. No, you didn't. I did. No. I did. Because you had somebody older then. No. Okay. Nope. It was me and real live Saturday morning cartoons. Okay. Uh, keep going. Go ahead. You were, you were at the end of it all because I started MTV because MTV came out in like 1981 and you weren't even alive, so, um, I didn't say I was alive during this. Okay. But you grew up on it, like you grew up on MV when it was like reality TV already? We grew up on real MT Okay. The og MTV Yes. Thank you. Fair. Can I. Can I have my moment? Because you're about to have your, you're about to have your own moment. I will do millennial then. Go ahead. Okay, thank you. Okay. Um, we had to figure everything out. like, mom and dad were like, either working or getting divorced. And we were like, just get home before streetlights came on. That, literally that was it. Be home when the streetlights came on. Done and done. It was awesome. Um, we were always like, Whatever dude, to everything, everything, and got along with everybody. I'm a middle child, so it even helped even more. Gen X and middle child, I am the epitome of the most excellent generation to ever exist. Your turn, go. I think you screwed up, though. Why? Because you're not the best generation to ever exist. Oh, really? We're doing this? Yeah. Okay. It's gonna have to be millennials. Alright, we're gonna We've lived through more shit than you have. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Okay. So, all of us 30 to 45 year olds, right? We are the older sibling who can't stop telling you about Harry Potter. Harry Potter? I loved Harry Potter. I am obsessed with Harry Potter. So I'm a millennial? Maybe. Is that how this works? No, but you probably because you read it to your kids. Uh, no. Thank you very much. I didn't have kids then. What are you talking? Maybe I just think you're way older than you are. Yeah, I think you do. Hold on a second. Let me pluck my nose hairs out. So like, you know, they don't get in the way while we're on mic here. How old do you think I am? I'm 45. And my student loans paid off. I thought we're just telling fibs And we also like to bring up how we survived life before TikTok. There was life before TikTok? Absolutely. How'd you survive? Which is also why I had TikTok. Why don't you tell, I have an idea, Amanda, while I'm here drinking my coffee, why don't you tell me how you survived life without TikTok? What did you do? Almost like when I survived life before cell phones. Because you had a Tomagotchi, didn't you? I did have a Tomagotchi. You grew up with a Tomagotchi? I did. I did. I thought those were the coolest things. I was too old to have one. Oh, they were. I'm a little sad. Yeah. It's on my kids wish list, though. You guys were a cool generation. We were, and we were there for the birth of the internet, social media, and totally bought the first iPod. Gen 1 iPod. Yep, Gen 1. Little, little, little square. I didn't even know how to use it, and you were in your feels over this whole thing. I like that. I mean, we all got our strengths. I think that's pretty cool. Mine is learning all the new things, because that's my generation. I know it is. But let's be real. We are totally big on doing what we love. Like, you know. Eating all the overpriced avocado toast. Do you really eat avocado toast? I love avocado toast. I hate avocado toast. It's so good. Okay, alright. I just don't even know how we sit in studios together. You know It's a good thing I'm drinking. But you have to give me grace. You can have your grace and eat it too. Fair. But let's be real. What? My generation is just tired because we've lived through four different recessions already. We're still trying to save the planet. Totally true. And I think most of us are still trying to save enough to buy our own home. Oh, so Like, we're screwed, but we're also amazing, so I don't know. You are pretty amazing. Um, because I could give a crap about our planet, and I didn't even know what a recession was till like 2008, so Yeah. Uh huh. But you can take away Gen Z, because I think your kids are Gen Zers. Oh, totally. I got four Gen Zers in the house, man. Um, somewhere between 15 and almost 30, uh, TikTok wizards, for sure, uh, smartphones in their hands. No patience about anything. Ever. Never look away from the damn thing. Totally woke. Mental health advocates all over the place, that's all they talk about. Oh my god, dad, my mental health. Dad. Dad, please stop talking right now. Uh, it's screwing with my mental health. They care about the environment too, so they learn that from you. But, not enough to really do anything about it yet. Cause, um, they're usually spending, I don't know, most of the day, like, doom scrolling or making edits to all their stupid TikTok videos. Also the pandemic is like their excuse for everything. All the time. Dad, stop it. The pandemic. Dad, please. Okay? I lived through a lot. Dad, you didn't. And they all want to start their own brand somehow. Whatever that is, their own brand. I don't even, like, what, like, really? That's what they're all working on. Dad, it's my brand. Dad, my brand. Brands make money. I don't, okay. I hear you. Do they make money? No, they don't. No, none of them make money. Do you know what they all do? They all live with me. Yeah. So it's called, you know what it's called? It's called dad brand. It's because you Gen Xers are enablers. Oh, shut. Maybe I'm just an enabler. Uh, no. I think, I know lots of Gen Xers. I have an idea. Don't generalize. The generations. Okay. Fair. Okay. Remember how when we just said that we are all products of the generation that raised us? Totally. It's because What gen raised you? Gen Xers are enablers. Who raised you? Oh, kill me now. Who raised you? What generation? Boomer would have raised me. Okay. And then your parents would have been silent. My parents were silent. Yeah. Gabby's weren't. Gabby's were boomers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. What are you going to do? Um, it's kind of weird because my parents were super old. Like, all of my friends were raised by boomers. Yeah, all of them transparent are silent super throwback like weird like so every once in a while you have a weird Well, we're my family's a weird one. Yeah. Yeah for sure. I'm raising Gen Z, which makes I think that does make sense Yeah, yeah, I think I'll just be thankful. None of us are raising Gen Alpha. No, right? Oh my god Sorry, Gen Alpha. I just can't but You know why we can't? I'll give you mine. We can't, you know why we can't? Because they're too sophisticated. That's why we can't. Evidently. Maybe. I don't even know what's happening with them. I mean, I can't even understand their verbiage. My brother in law is raising Gen Alpha and I'm having a heart attack. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Do you even know what they're talking about half the time? No. No. And honestly, I don't even care. I'm not gonna lie. Okay. Subject change! So, Gen Alpha, since, uh, We just, we should probably just stop there before we dig a bigger hole. Please scroll past them. Why don't we subject change. Subject change. And why don't we talk about how all these different generations with all their different experiences can survive together in this super sophisticated world and how we kind of figure out how to tolerate each other. All right, let's go. So one of the first and best ways in My personal opinion to do this is through humor and I think you're really good at that. Oh my god I love this if we're doing humor, I'm in and most of the time, when we're talking about other generations, I think we use humor as a wall. It's a way to be divisive. But I think we can maybe use humor as a bridge here, and we can make it easier to relate to others, maybe? Oh, totally. It's how I live my life. I feel like I'm doing number one right already. All the humor. All the humor. One for Gen X! Let's go! No, I think it's just your personality. You're good at humor. Whatever. But it's also about perspective, right? And I don't think there's a right or wrong here, and the idea is to laugh with each other, not at each other. And in order to do so, I think you gotta make jokes a little more relatable and not, like, mean and going for the jugular. Oh my god, totally. Um, Can I extemporize here for a second, please? Well played. Yes. Proceed. I've been extemporizing this whole time, by the way. I've just been waiting to throw it in there. Um, So my dad used to always say, when I was your age, I used to have to walk. I don't, I don't know, by the way, why I'm doing like a Sean Connery accent. Cause my dad was not Sean Connery, but I'm going to do it anyway. When I was your age, I used to have to walk to school in the snow uphill both ways. So first of all, I'm assuming you get the joke, right? Like. It's impossible. You can't walk uphill both ways. Duh. But the whole idea behind this is that, like, his generation was tough and could get through anything. He was silent generation, right? Like, trying to imply that my generation was, like, total weak sauce. So at some point, I figure this out, I don't know, cause maybe I have, like, emotional intelligence or something, I did exactly what you just said. Like, I stopped fighting him. Like, I didn't even know I was doing it, but I realized, like, like, it was a thing. It was like a coping mechanism. So I'd be like, Yeah, no wonder you're such a badass, Dad. I'm over here complaining that I have to blow my Nintendo cartridge to make it work, and you're like, walking to school, like, uphill both ways. And, like, it opened up this whole world to my dad, who started laughing with me, and, like, started realizing, like, It wasn't a thing. Like, my brothers and sisters didn't know how to do this. And I, like, found this whole, like, unique connection with my pops. I love it. But also, you're old. But you gotta go there? Like, I just did something not I was just I was just bridging by the way Okay, fair, fair. But you are smart. Okay. I was just bridging. A generational divide, like you just told me to. And you just, shh, fucking shot the wall. So, you just did a Donald Trump, you just built a Donald Trump wall. Wow, wow, wow. You just did that. You know why, Peter? Because you're old. No. I hate you. I love that you were able to bridge that gap with your dad. I love my dad. Shout out to my dad. Totally. Sorry. That was hysterical. Is that too soon? Okay. No, it's not. It's 23 years ago. Too soon? No, it's not. It's not. It's already not. It's not even too soon with Gabby anymore. Like it's all good. Just go. Alright. Rip. But the whole idea is to be a little self depreciating with your humor, right? Totally, yes. I think it kind of, that way you gain the upper hand, so you can still make fun of them, but do it in a nicer way. That's how I live my life. And that's how they know that you're not making fun of them. Right. That way they feel okay with everything, and They know you don't take yourself too seriously. So I think it just helps everybody chill out a bit. Oh my god, self depreciating is, like I said, it's just the way I live my life. But here's the, like, there's one little caveat. Don't make it so terrible. Like, don't go, like, self deprecating, right? Like, super, super close words, different words, because if you're self deprecating, like, people will start being like, Dude, like, really? Like, enough Eeyore. Like, people don't want to hang out with you anymore. Like, nobody will like you. So you gotta, like, really toe that line, where it's like, humble, but like, not like, Oh my god, my life is terrible. Right. So not too depressive. Right. Thank you very much. Okay. Give me another tool. Um, I think, another tool we could use to be more relatable intergenerationally is curiosity. Did you just say intergenerationally? I think so. I think that's the longest word I've ever heard intergenerationally. Is it a word? I don't know. I love that. Okay, but here's what I love more. You just used curiosity in a podcast about Curiosity. Well, it's what we're trying to do, right? You just got bonus points. Well, it's all about our choices, right? Becoming self aware, right? It's all about choices. So you can either be curious or you could be a douchebag Okay, I'll go with, I'll go with apathetic. That's much better than douchebag. Sorry. Yes. But you do got to be careful, because if you don't care, you might have a little self awareness problem. Oh, you got to care. Which is why. We're doing this podcast. No, you got to care right because otherwise you're getting off you start going down a rabbit hole That's not good. Yeah, so I use this one a lot with like my kids friends this whole curiosity thing, right? So don't make fun of me Let's be honest. You're gonna make fun of me. I already know But being curious is being relatable. So I applaud you for using curiosity with your kids friends all of the above Right. So like, I'm not really even doing anything special. I'm just literally being curious. I just care about what they talk about, and I don't shit on them for always being on their phones or anything like that. So like, if they're doing something on TikTok, I'll just be like, tell me, like, I want to know. Like, I'm genuinely, I'm not like, you're an idiot. I'm like, what's the thing? What's the trend? Tell me. Can I do it with you? And then they totally like, start chatting about everything and it's super easy, but the problem is people are so lazy Older generations, they don't want to figure out what the younger generation is doing because they don't think it's important because they're always doing business Business business, you know, it's fair fair fair statement. What's funny though is that I'm totally that old person who's pissed at people for being on their phones. Oh my God, you are? Oh, just like sometimes I'm like, just put your phone down. And I, I am guilty of it too, being on my phone, but I, I do find it super rude when they are on TikTok or they're on some sort of social media and there's a bunch of people around and everyone's talking and it seems like they're disassociating. No, no, I think that's totally fair. So you're right. Context matters a lot here. So if like, they're just, if we're just like chilling in the house, like a lot of times, like Ruth will have her friends over and they're just chilling in the house. That's how they, that's how they hang out. I'm not going to get in their face and say, why aren't you guys communicating with each other? What I do do is go like, what are you guys looking at? Like what I do. That was funny. That was so good. Um, so yeah. So you engage that I engage them at their level, their level. I'm genuinely interested and it's excellent. And everyone thinks I'm normal because of it, which is super weird because I'm quite Abbey normal. We know this about me. I love it. OK, so check, check, check, check. Curiosity. Give me another one. Uh, shared experiences, maybe. Shared experiences. Yeah, so explain, please. Well, I think another way right is that we celebrate the things that we've been through together Right, so we all go through the same phases Like 50 years earlier than anything I went through wait, what did you just shut up? What just happened? Why did I just get shit on? Are you talking about, like, I was a teenager once and then you were a teenager once, but I was a teenager 50 years before you? Okay, for everybody listening, for anybody listening right now, like, we're just not that far apart, Amanda. Okay, but fair, but hold on. I mean, the idea is really to figure out what we have in common, right? So you listen to, like I'm working hard at this, in this episode. You listen to albums. I listen to albums growing up all the time. I had CDs. Yes. But our commonality is we both love music. Ah. So even though I may not be able to relate to A tapes or A tracks or whatever they're called. They're called A tracks. Eight. Not A. Eight. Oh my lord. This is friggin believable. See? Okay. But. We both love music. We talk about music together all the time. Yes. Yes. See, so. So we're doing what you're, we're, we are. Shared experiences, shared lives. You and I are living shared experiences. Commonalities, yes. We all of you people listening at home, Amanda and I do this really good with each other. Okay, fair. Okay. Um, can I extemporize again? Okay. Do you mind? Nope, go ahead. Okay, oh my god, I'm so proud of myself. That's like, am I on two or three extemporizing? Okay. Um, so we road tripped to Tucson, like whole fam, like a few years ago. And we were totally bonding over music, just like you said. So I have four kids, right? So, literally, the six of us literally rotated songs the whole way there. It was total chaos. Oh, that's, that's clever. It was chaos. Okay, Olivia Rodrigo, Tame Impala. Bad Bunny, Nirvana, Madonna. We had a Hamilton soundtrack going. It was insane. But by the end of the trip, I created a playlist called Best of Gen X through Z. Oh, I like it. And then we all have it, right? It's on Amazon Music. Wait, you have to share it with me. I'm super curious. It was the best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was super fun. Okay, uh, what else you got? You got any more? Maybe like two or three? Okay, go. Okay, So another one is just to avoid generational generalizations altogether. Can you do me a favor? Can you say that like three times fast? I cannot. Generational generalizations. Generational generalizations. It was hard enough to say one. Oh my god, that's hysterical. Generational generalizations. Explain. I mean, if you read any history, like, ever. I read history all the time. I know. So you should know, then, that every generation is built on the backs of the previous ones. Amen to that. Let's go. Shout out to all previous generations. Be kind. Rewind. Okay, let's go from blockbuster days. It is. Thank you very much. That's a whole thing we can talk about and the whole experience of like me going to a blockbuster on a Friday night, like you don't even know what that's appointed that do a movie that you wanted. You don't know what, Oh my God, really? You don't even know that experience. The experience by itself was exceptionally meaningful, but that was honestly, that was probably more fun than watching the actual damn movie we would rent. Yeah, you would spend hours just like, walking around trying to debate It was the coolest thing ever! And now our kids don't know anything about this! No, they just push a button. This sucks. Okay, fine. Whatever. Back to where I don't even know where we were. No generation did everything right. They did not. So like before we just go and say that Gen Z is lazy, we got to remember when we were their age, our parents thought we were lazy too. So maybe we just got to chill a little. We totally like that is so good, right? Like you're exactly right. We never think we never put ourselves in the shoes of the generation because we're older. So we don't want to go back in time and think, you know what? How was I when I was that age? We suck at that. So, uh, Shout out to my millennial friend sitting across from me for calling us out on that, right? You got to give credit where credit's due. Um, my mom. Can I tell it? I feel like I'm like totally lots of sharing Yeah, I'm telling a lot of stories Yes. Okay. So when I think of my mom, I think of like resilience. Okay, so She's been dead like my god 23 years. Yeah 23 years, but I realized like thinking back like I never, like, thought about how I sort of became who I was. And as I'm getting older, obviously now, because I'm an old Gen X er, I'm sitting there thinking, like, where did I get all this resilience from? Like, because I think I'm super resilient. Well, I don't know if that's an ego thing or whatever. And I totally, like, Give credit to my mom, because she would teach me, like, in little dumb things every day. Like, if I got a crappy grade at school, if I didn't get picked for the soccer team, if my girlfriend broke up with me, like, she was always there and she was always explaining, like, get, pick yourself back up by the bootstrap. Oh my god, that would be a good old person phrase. It would be. Oh my god, I just threw that out there. So she would just be like, hey, get back up. But like, not in like a mean, like, old lady, old generation way. Like, in an excellent teaching me resilience way, right? And so, I realized, like, she helped me when she died, my dad died 23 years ago, and then obviously Gabby died, like, the whole idea of resilience came from my mom. I'm who I am because of her, so like, this concept of, like, Not being an a hole and like generalizing everyone is super important because I think giving credit to Generation before you is a huge important thing. So super shout out Esther Belinsky. I love you mama So it's also probably a good segue then for our next one. Are we segwaying by the way? Do you know how to spell segue? S E G W A Y S is there you in there by the way, everybody, uh, that's a millennials way to spell Segue because that's all she knows is the little machine that goes around town. Uh, it's S-E-G-G-U-E. Oh my god, this is so much fun. Um, space, W-A-Y-S-E-G-U-E seg way. S-E-G-U-E. I don't know how else, I don't know how many more times we're saying this. So as we go on our segway, it sounds like your mom had a lot of empathy. My mom was a total empathizer. Which I mean, it's really sounds simple, but it's not because it's hard to see the world through each other's eyes. Wait a second. Are we? Are you onto another tool already? Like, did you just, did you just like Jedi mind trick me right now? You kind of brought it up. Okay, so we finished generational, generational, whatever that was. We've moved on to empathy. Yes. Okay. Got it. Go. Sorry. Think if we recognize that change is constant, and every generation struggles to adapt, I think we could empathize with each other more. I think we could. I think I'm, I, you know what? I think I'm going to be a good empathizer when this app is over. All right, well maybe you can start empathizing then. Because if we think about technology, this is why I'm in charge of the tech for the podcast. Whoa, whoa, whoa, what is that? What is, what are you talking about? You just have to adapt to the new technology, which is harder for you. Are you saying? And I empathize with the fact that it's harder for you by doing it for you. I don't know if that's empathy or if you're just making sure that this podcast flows smoother and, uh, we're just playing to your strengths. I think that's what's going on here. I'm not going to lie. All right. Okay, wait. I actually But on that note, do you have another story? How did you know I have another story? Because you got real excited. Okay. No, no. Okay. Um. Can I extemporize for a third time, please? You can. Okay, that's the last, I promise that's the last time I'm using extemporize. Okay, um, so I was always the grocery shopper in our family. Like, Gabby helped, but like, I, like, always did grocery shopping. This was like my thing. I think it's because you're so anal retentive, but proceed. Uh, I was just trying to be a good husband. Okay, so like, like a few months ago, I'm at the store, and I see some old guy, like at the end of the aisle, and he was like, struggling. Amanda. Like, struggling. Struggling. Okay. So, I go up and ask if he needs help, cause I'm nice now sometimes. Cause Gabby's dead and I'm trying to be a better human being. Um, and he was like, super overwhelmed. And he tells me his wife was recovering from surgery. And he was just like trying to help her with the list that she gave him, but he didn't know where anything was because he doesn't shop at the grocery store because she's done it for like 70 years. So in like 10 minutes, I like found everything because his wife was a total badass and wrote down like exactly what to find, like even like the brand names. And I know the grocery store, like the back of my hand. So this was like super easy. I could have totally judged him. I could have been a total a hole and been like, oh dude, like Why don't you know how to use the grocery store? But instead, channeled Gabby. Super kind hearted. Totally helped this dude. I'm like, this guy grew up different time than I did. I think he was probably silent. Probably silent generation. So maybe like 75, like right on the cusp of boom. So I'm like, this guy didn't, like that wasn't his job. Like, whatever. Like, so, uh, he was super happy. You chilled yourself. You slowed your roll. I'm a Gen X, so I had to chill. I helped this old dude. He was awesome. I'm sure his wife was like, Oh my God, this guy's a stud. Hopefully he went home and didn't say anything about me and came back and looked like the bomb. And probably, hopefully they did it, right? Like, let's go. I mean, I'm proud of you. I know, right? For chillin I'm a little proud of myself. And connecting with a random stranger. And helping them. What am I, what else do I gotta do now? I mean, Amanda, I, no, you just gotta keep doing it. I think the biggest takeaway from your story is that you're trying to connect with people in your community and all of these tools that we just went over is really to build relationships and not rivalries. Right? I think so. Also, I just want to go straight to heaven, right? I don't want to, like, go through purgatory or go to that weird cream of wheat place. So I'm trying to do nice things so I can get right back on Gabby. Do that. But for everyone else who maybe doesn't want to go to purgatory, I guess, um, yeah, I I think we just have to remember that each generation is shaped by different events. And we all have our own challenges. And these differences are a part of the human story. The big human story. I like that. It's how we're all in or within together. Well said. Like look at you millennial pulling that out the human story good summarizing right chat GPT, man. Oh my god By the way, please say you've been looking up like you've been googling like phrases cuz we're gonna get it. Okay. Got it Okay, we can start that next. Okay. All right. Go go. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Keep summarizing. Just a quick recap, right? We want to use humor curiosity shared experiences, practice empathy, foster mutual respect, and always avoid generalizations. Perf. I love the tools. Let's get silly. I'm done being serious. Um, pop quiz. Yeah, I want to see what I want to see like what you think. Okay. Are you ready for this? Okay. Okay. Give me the one word. That you would use to describe a boomer like what word would they use like what's like their their word? They're go to word all the time. Don't you word? Yes Back in my day. Yeah. Okay. But one yes. Like that. But one word. Yes. Nothing. Not one word's. I'm really bad. I There's decision came, by the way, there's no right answer here. I have no idea. I know. I dunno. Uh, I'm thinking groovy. Oh, okay. I'm thinking groovy. Okay. Like, like, like everything was groovy to them. Okay. Right. Fair. Okay. Okay. Um, okay, I'm gonna go in order, so be ready now. Okay. Now that you know the trick, uh. Gen X. I hate my job. That's one word. This is like three words. You can't do one. Oh my god. That's You're just channeling me. That's not fair. Okay. What else you got? What would be your one word for Gen X? Dude. Oh. Literally. Dude. You know what's so funny? Totally. Totally. Dude. I say dude and totally all the time. Yeah. But I'm not Gen X. Chill. Chill's another one. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Millennials, what would be your word? No. 'cause dude, chill and totally my words. That's not you. Okay. So then honestly, you're like a closet freaking gen Xer, like, I dunno what to tell you. No, I'm the lost generation. They took it away. Okay. Whatever. Um, for millennials, yes. Shut up. I don't know. No Yolo, yolo, yolo. Mm. I don't use that, but yeah. Is that what I mean? Like Yeah. I, I don't know. I'm guessing. I feel like that's like young millennial. Okay. Uh, adulting, maybe. Adulting or No? Okay. Sure. I don't know. Sure. I don't use that one either. Maybe lit? I don't use lit. I don't know. I don't know millennial stuff. I'm guessing. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, those all sound appropriate. Okay. Uh, Gen Z? Do we have any for Oh, I totally have one for Gen Z. Do you have one for Gen Z? Adulting. No! Fire. Everything's fire. Oh, that's funny. I don't know if that's like the real Like, Ruth's probably laughing at me right now. Like, oh my god, dad, you're so stupid. I can't believe you just said that. But I think fire. Yeah, yeah. Do you know one for Gen Alpha? Or no? Or your daughter's not like Skibbity. What? Skibbity. What is that? What does that even mean? Riz. What is that? I don't know. That's all, that's all Ruth. You told me she's not Gen Alpha, but Oh, but she's on the border. Yeah. Like, she's, she's down there. Yeah. So she knows, she knows the lingo. So she was 2006, and I think Gen Alpha starts in like, 09 or 10, like, or, so she's like, she's like five years ahead of him, but yeah, yeah, she gets it all. Um, all right, fine. That was fun. Uh, we done? Or what? Can we like, go on to like, our phrases now? Yeah. Are you ready? Okay, so fun facts, not fun facts? Yeah. This is, this is fun phrases. Okay, fun phrases. Okay. Okay. We're going to, we're going to do fun phrases. Okay. So let's start saying like, The boomer phrase or like, whatever, however old it is, I have no idea, but we're just doing old people phrases, and then we're gonna translate into what it means today. Then give like the etymology, uh, did I say that right? Etymology? Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. And for everybody who doesn't know what etymology is, Pete, what is that? Um, like where it all came from. Okay. Like the, the history behind it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You go first. Okay. Ready? Number one, uh, hold your horses. Okay. What does that mean? Uh. Slow down, dude. Just chill. Okay, nice. Or maybe Gen Z. Chillax. Oh shit. Okay, perf! No, I don't actually know if that's right or not. Perf! Yeah, that's absolutely right. Okay, so, uh, origin. A literal phrase used in the 19th century to caution wagon drivers to stop and wait because another wagon driver was crossing or whoever was stopping them wanted to like know what the hell they were doing there in the first place. And over time, this became the whole general idea is just to like, chill. And Gen Zers make fun of it today because there ain't no horses anymore driving people around you were totally right look at that Okay, I love it. I mean you got one. I do still say hold your horses to my kids You do not you do I never said I never said I never said this in my entire life It was said to me. So, okay. All right. Got it. Got it. Okay. Okay. How about the bees knees the bees knees? Yeah Like, cool. Super cool. Yeah. Right? Gen Z, uh, fire. Okay. Yeah, fire. Totally. Yes, fire. Let's go. I just said fire. That's it. Fire. It's kind of like the business, but bees knees. Okay, so the origin comes from the 1920s slang. This phrase was a playful way to describe something extraordinary or delightful. Bees were seen as industrious and valuable creatures. They produced honey. Which was a sweet and desirable product, although bees don't technically have knees. Oh, no shit. They don't. They have joints. Thanks for calling that out, right? The phrase though may have been playfully connected with ideas of bees gathering pollen on their legs, suggesting something tiny yet full of value or sweetness. And so I think it's totally making a comeback. That is why I did not know. Like that is, that is like one deep. Etymological explanation. Job well done, millennial. Good work. I only know that one because it does not make any sense to me. The bee's knees. I never used it. I don't, so far I haven't used any of these. Okay, like, looking down my list, like, Maybe I've used a few. Um, my mom used this one. Okay, ready? You sound like a broken record. What does that mean? Yeah, I already heard it. Shut up. Oh, shit. Okay, fine. Okay. Or, no one asked. Duh. Why do you look at me like that? You look at me with such hatred when you say it. Oh my god. I need a new podcast co host. Okay, um, this refers to vinyl records. You know, the crap I used to listen to that you made fun of? Which could get scratched. Because I would play them over and over all the time and then you would like hear the same section like Cha cha. It would suck. Um, this phrase became shorthand for someone repeating themselves annoyingly. And millennials or Gen Z make fun of it because, uh, we don't have record players anymore and they don't know how to appreciate good music. Remember, we're not supposed to attack. We're supposed to find similarities. Okay, I think Commonalities. I, okay, so I, uh, the way you're saying that right now, which is hysterical because you've been making fun of me this whole episode. So we're going to let you do the next one and then the one after that. I'm going to call you back out for exactly what you just said right now. Okay, sure. Okay, fine. Go. Hey, how about this? What? Don't let the door hit you on the way out then. Uh, get the fuck out of here and don't come back. Or as my daughter would say, bye! Yes, uh, sarcastic remark. Dating back to the mid 20th century America, often directed at someone overstaying their welcome. Totally. Pete. And this one is simple. It just comes from literally opening a door and leaving. So maybe referring to someone getting fired. Oh yeah, like on the job, like they're getting their ass kicked out. Yeah, or getting fired as a podcast co host. Wow. Uh, who's getting fired here? I think you just fired. Are we just firing each other? You just fired me. I think you just fired me Gen Zers make fun of it today because it's a little too dramatic for them. Oh my god Everything is too dramatic for Gen Zers nowadays. Like that's their whole deal. That is true They're like, what is it? Like what was the inside out to on we? Ennui. Yeah, that's, that's their whole life now. Oh. Right? Oh, right. Oh my god, kill me. Okay, my turn. Okay. Uh, remember when I said I'm going to call you out? Uh, well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? You're such a hypocrite. Uh, no, thank you. More like you're a hypocrite for making fun of me this entire episode and then telling me I'm supposed to be nice to people. Anyway, pot calling the kettle black. This phrase dates back to the 17th century, when pots and kettles were both made of cast iron, and they would both blacken with soot, making it hypocritical for one to criticize the other. And Gen Z'ers think it's lame today, cause now they just find a picture of their friends doing something hypocritical and post it all over social media and make fun of them, cause they're assholes. So, they don't use it anymore. Well, speaking of social media What? That'll cost you an arm and a leg. What the hell does that have to do with social media? It's how everybody shops. What? That's how everybody shops? It's like you get influenced by something that you see on social media, and then you go and you buy it. And that costs you an arm and a leg? Yeah, sometimes. Cause it's like expensive AF? Yep. This is what you just, somehow your brain just, like, transitioned all that into your next thing? Yeah. Okay. I gotta really dig into this brain and see what's going on. Yeah, I know. Okay, fine. But what's crazy is that this phrase What? Likely arose in probably like the 18th century. And it refers to the high cost of commission portraits. So the what? For a commissioned portrait. What the what? I don't what is it? What is a commissioned portrait back in the 1700s when you would like watch your painting your picture of yourself? Oh Shit like artists would like like paint something a commissioned portrait. Yes. Good job. But did you know that if you had more limbs, it meant that it was more expensive? I don't understand what that means. You wanted your arms and your legs in it. Oh shit. You would pay more for your portrait. Wait, you serious? Yes. You're telling me if you wanted to paint, like, your right and left arm, it costs more money. Oh my god, okay, that makes sense. So if you're doing, like, just your head shot, then it costs a certain amount of money. But if you wanted your arms, then, okay. Full portrait, full body. Okay, so I never. We know, like, more stuff. Amanda, I never knew this. This is fascinating. That's so cool. I like that one. That's my favorite one so far. We're all learning. That's cool. Okay. Um, my turn. Can I go? Okay. Burning the midnight oil. Yeah. What does it mean? You gotta work like late. You gotta work late? Something late. You gotta work, work, work, work, work, come on. Um, grind mode. That's what Ruth would say. Dude, dad, dad, I totally am grinding. I'm grinding right now. Yes, work late. You're absolutely right. Um, burning the midnight oil. Staying up late to work or study. So before electricity, people literally had to use oil lamps to keep working or reading after dark. And now, of course, no one gives a shit, because we all have flashlights on our phones and everything, so no problem. But that's where it all came from, probably back in the 17th century. Um, alright, uh, how many more do you have? I have two. Okay, I have one. Okay, perfect. I have one. So you go, I go, you go. Okay, perfect, go. Okay. Yeah. I don't really, I picked this phrase because I don't really like it. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Don't throw the what in the huh? Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Okay, I've heard this one. Um, this one is like, Don't throw the, like, like, like, be careful. Like, don't overthink it. Like, be careful. Or, like, don't get rid of something valuable while trying to eliminate the bad. Okay, okay, well, I was trying to say it. Yes, you are correct. Okay. Job well done. Give me the backstory. But where, yeah, where it came from is in olden times, families used the same bathwater for everyone. Oh, fuck, gross. Well, they had to get it from the well. What? Or, like, the river, or fill in the blank. So, I get it, why they had to recycle it. And they started with the adults, and then they went down the line from the oldest to the youngest. And by the time the baby got a turn, the water was so dirty, you might literally lose sight of the baby. Thus, they ran the baby out with the bath water. Okay, um, I'm gonna just temporize for the fourth time. Um, my mother was one of 13 children. Uh, they lived on a farm in Ohio. Uh, they bought the farm in, like, 1879, like, after the Civil War. Yeah. Um, if that happened, which I don't know because now this is lost history because my mother is dead. God rest her soul. Uh, that would be disgusting. Thank God she was the sixth child. Can you imagine 13, 14, 15 people taking a bath in the same bath water? Oh my god, that's disgusting. And then if you were mad? My youngest uncle was Uncle Phil. I'm calling him, he's still alive, I'm gonna find out what's going on. You need to ask him. I am. And then ask him, if his sibling was mad at him, would they pee in the bath water before he took a bath? Oh my god, or poo. Oh man, that's so gross. I'm sure they would clean it. Oh my god, let's move on. I don't think so. Okay, okay, go ahead. My last one is bite the bullet. What does that mean? Deal with it. Move on. Let's go. But like, you're so good. Like you're so blind about this. Like, Oh yeah, I got this. Okay. I thought these were hard. Um, no challenge for you. Okay, okay, bite the bullet. To do something painful or unpleasant because you have no choice. So, in pre anesthesia days, soldiers literally bit on bullets during surgery to distract themselves from pain. Now, You're right. It's just a way of saying suck it up and deal with it. So, that's my last one. I love the backstory though, because I love how phrases have actual historical context. They totally, they all do, right? It's amazing. I didn't know that one. know if you literally bit the bullet. Okay, by the way, I want your last one and I want it to be awesome. Okay, ready? What? Cut the mustard. Oh, shot! Uh, cut the mustard. That one's awesome. I love that one. Um, to do good at something, or as Ruth would say, to slay. Dad, that slays. Yeah. Cut the mustard. Do good. Okay, fair. Give me the backstory, because that one's weird. Like, cut the mustard, that's, that's got to be like a weird thing. I mean, it comes from the 1800s when mustard was slaying for something sharp or spicy or excellent. It's weird. It's weird. Why excellent? I don't know. But sharp or spicy? That makes some sense. Spicy. If you could cut it, you were on point. Nowadays, it just confuses everyone because who even uses mustard? Uh, I still use mustard. That's disgusting. But I'm not cutting the mustard. I don't like mustard. Hey, sometimes. Isn't there another one? Sometimes I cut the cheese. Yeah, that's it. Oh my God, that's funny. Okay. All right. That's all I got. All right. Beautiful. All right. So hopefully everyone feels a little more sophisticated when it comes to decoding old people phrases, or at least better at laughing about why we all love to mock each other's lingo. And now we're going to do the part where we tell people what to remember or what to do so they stay sort of sophisticated. Uh, sort of sophisticated or sort of sophisticated? Sort of. Uh, thank you for the rebranding. Okay, so, uh, first, let's watch movies. Because even if you don't like movies, uh, It's an excuse to do research, so let's go, people. Um, so I lined up some, like, movies for each generation. And you have to do this homework, okay? Okay. Uh, so for boomers, watch Mad Men. Well, I guess that's a series, not a movie. Uh, totally set in, like, the 60s working. Have you ever seen Mad Men? Highly suggested. Excellent. Five star. Uh Forrest Gump because it covers like all the major events like in like the boomers ever lived through so watch that one's good one Okay, excellent. Okay, so that's boomers Gen X watch reality bites or My fav the Breakfast Club to give you an idea of like grunge and tense But still totally chill vibes. I've never heard of reality bites Excellent, please watch um Millennials I'm going I'm going for mean girls Or the social network. Cause it's all about like the coming of social media. Right? Am I, is that right? Like, do you even know, or do you, you don't even watch, do you watch these movies, or you don't even? The Social Network, that's a good one. Uh, and finally for Gen Z, it's 8th grade or Bo Burnham inside. Like, to get an idea of growing up completely digital. And also for their totally weird ass humor. Yeah, yeah, I've never heard either one of those. Okay, but if you could watch, like, so if we watch like Forrest Gump, like let's do like a whole, like, we'll do like a Sunday. Forrest Gump, Breakfast Club, Social Network, 8th grade. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. A lot of popcorn. Let's hang out. Okay. Um, second read the generation myth by Bobby Duffy or generations, the history of America's future by Neil Howe and William Strauss. The first book breaks down generational stereotypes with real data. And the other one is a deep dive into the cyclical nature of generations. Both excellent, and absolutely, people, I know we didn't go through it in this podcast episode, but generations are cyclical. They repeat themselves. Kind of like my genes. And we are absolutely in that cycle. It's starting over right now. So I would highly suggest reading that second book, uh, Generations, The History of America's Future. Highly, highly suggest it. And finally, if you're feeling super bold, Just have a generational day out or like whatever like have fun with it, right? So if you want to learn about boomers visit a classic diner and listen to Elvis on the jukebox Extra credit for doing it without bringing your phone. Could you even do do you think you could do that? I don't know if I could do that Like I'd have to go to like we could go to dinner without a phone. Do you think you could do it? Oh, that's simple. You would yeah, I'd leave in the car you do Oh, I never do. Whenever I don't need to. Okay, fine. Well, let's go. I have an idea. Let's you and I go to a classic diner, listen to some Elvis or some Beatles with no phone. Okay? Uh, for Gen X, go to an arcade, 80s arcade, eat pizza, listen to music. Oh my God. Sorry, I was also stuck on the fact that you want me to find a jukebox, but that's a whole different story. They're going to have jukebox in old diners. That's what they do. They have them. They have them at the table. I have never. Been to an old diner. Don't rock the jukebox! Okay, fine. Uh, for millennials, visit a coffee shop in Oregon or Washington somewhere or do a trivia night with 2000s pop culture themes. Or maybe just go to a local brewery, cause they're gonna have that. Let's, Millennials go to a brew, let's, okay, fine. Alright, I don't know, I'm making this shit up as I go. Coffee shop, local brewery, let's go. We don't have to go to Oregon, people. Uh, and for Gen Z, you gotta go bold. We gotta do a TikTok trend in real life. Like thrift shopping. Or trying a viral recipe. Something like cool cool. Like, get on it. Um. That's all I got. Just get out of your comfort zone, right? Like, just go do something. Like, go learn about another generation, people. Stop being stuck in your own muck. Go be a part of community. Yes, please. Thank you. Any community. Make a new community. Go. AmandaPSA, that's ya. Yep. All right. Wrap it. Let's go. Wrap it. And there you have it, folks. Our take on generational divide and how we can use some tools and be self aware enough to care. We went from rotary phones to TikTok dances, and somewhere in between, we managed to throw Gen X and millennials under the bus too. So everyone got their fair share of the stick. I would say so. And if you stuck with us this far, congratulations, you're officially an expert in rolling your eyes at every other generation. Or maybe in appreciating what makes each one unique. We'd like to think we shared just enough insight to make you a little more sophisticated when navigating those workplace conversations next week. And hey, if you learned something new, even if you just laughed at your own expense, then we've done our job. Sort of. Sort of. Sort of. Amanda, let's get with it. Sort of. Remember, bridging the generational divide isn't about agreeing on everything. It's about finding common ground, like universally agreeing avocado toast is overpriced. I've never, I've never going to eat avocado toast. I don't even know why you like avocado toast in first place. I mean, I have an avocado tree and I grow my own avocados, but that's a different story. So if you've enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe, leave a review and share it with someone from another generation. They might even thank you. I love that idea. Okay. Call to action. People share with someone from a different generation. Alright, well then, until next time. Keep the conversations going, keep the jokes flowing, and remember, the gap isn't as wide as we think. Stay clever and stay connected.